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Duncan in SI

Timmy

Duncan, like Kareem, could become ageless wonder

Seven current members of the San Antonio Spurs already have been there, done that, feeling that rush of emotions that comes with an NBA player’s first championship ring. Three more — Ime Udoka, Ian Mahinmi and Darius Washington — haven’t been anywhere or done anything yet in Spurs terms, so they’ll be curious bystanders Tuesday night at the AT&T Center during the traditional opening-night ceremony before the defending champs face the Portland Trail Blazers in a nationally televised game.

As for the fortunate five — Matt Bonner, Francisco Elson, Michael Finley, Fabricio Oberto and Jacque Vaughn — well, they ought to do something special, if not right there on the court for the cameras and the crowd, then later, in private, before the evening ends. They ought to go up to the man most responsible for those rings and say:

Thank you, Tim Duncan.

Thank you, Tim Duncan.

Thank you, Tim Duncan.

Thank you, Tim Duncan.

Thank you, Tim Duncan.

Without Duncan, those five guys wouldn’t be in position to have the pride, the joy, the satisfaction and the humility of championship recognition wash over them. Without Duncan, frankly (if our math is ballpark enough), they and at least 31 other Spurs players across the past eight years might not have received their first, second or third championship rings, and San Antonio likely would not be Texas’ reigning title town. Remember, this is a city that was best known for putting the “L” in Alamo, at least before the tall swimmer from the Virgin Islands showed up.

Duncan, of course, has been around for all four of the Spurs’ NBA championships. He is the only player able to make that claim on a roster that has turned over the equivalent of three times since he, David Robinson, Avery Johnson, Sean Elliott and Malik Rose beat the New York Knicks in five games in June 1999. And when he accepts ring No. 4 on Tuesday, Duncan will join an even more exclusive group of elite players who won championships eight or more years apart.

It’s a very short list if you limit the discussion to a) All-Star-caliber performers and b) non-Boston Celtics. That sets aside someone like Robert Horry, a postseason specialist on seven NBA champions, for three franchises, in 15 years. With the utmost respect, it subtracts from the discussion Bill Russell (11 rings from 1957 through 1969), Sam Jones (10, 1959-1969), John Havlicek (eight, 1963-1976) and Tom Heinsohn (eight, 1957-1965). It even “asterisks” a couple of part-career Celtics: Bill Walton, who won his two NBA rings nine years apart (1977 and 1986), and Robert Parish, who earned his first in 1981 with Boston and his last as a bit player for Chicago in 1997.

Who’s left? Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen spread their six Bulls championships across eight years. Magic Johnson won his first in 1980 and his last in 1988, a span of nine seasons, same as Slater Martin (1950-1958). Dennis Rodman won five in 10 years, starting with Detroit in 1989 and ending with Chicago in 1998. Then there’s Duncan with four in nine.

That leaves one more: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, the man who best combined quality, quantity and longevity into his Hall of Fame career. At age 24, Abdul-Jabbar won an NBA title with the Milwaukee Bucks in 1971. He didn’t win his second until nine years later with Johnson and the Los Angeles Lakers. But from 1980 through 1988, age 33 to 41, the 7-foot-2 pride of New York’s Power Memorial High racked up five, giving him a spread of 18 years from his first ring to his sixth and last.

No one is suggesting that spreading out championships is more impressive than grabbing three in a row or even a repeat, which Duncan’s teams never have done. It’s just different impressive, a testament to a star player’s durability, reliability and excellence across several “generations” of NBA ebbs and flows. The Spurs won their first back when Indiana, New York, Portland and Atlanta were strong teams, with Utah built around Karl Malone and John Stockton. They won their most recent since rebirths in Dallas, Golden State, Cleveland and Chicago, and Utah driven these days by Carlos Boozer and Deron Williams. Throughout, Duncan’s club never has won fewer than 53 games (it was on pace for 61 in its 37-13 lockout year).

Abdul-Jabbar’s greatness bracketed most of the NBA’s all-time best. His first ring came while Wilt Chamberlain, Jerry West, Willis Reed, Walt Frazier, Nate Thurmond, Nate Archibald, Earl Monroe and Pete Maravich were active. His last came against the likes of Jordan, Malone, Stockton, Patrick Ewing, Larry Bird, Charles Barkley, Isiah Thomas, Hakeem Olajuwon and Moses Malone.

Duncan’s arc might eventually rival that. He began his career making all-NBA teams alongside Jordan, Robinson, Gary Payton, Reggie Miller and Grant Hill. Lately, he’s been making them with LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Carmelo Anthony and Yao Ming.

Starting his 11th pro season, Duncan is virtually unchanged in appearance and production from his old-millennium self. Besides a bottle of whatever Dick Clark chugged hidden away somewhere, he has an agreement on a new two-year, $40 million contract extension that will take him through 2011-12, a desire to play “as long as I can,” a supporting cast (Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, coach Gregg Popovich) capable of contending for years and at least one comparison to — there it is again — a certain ageless wonder.

“Duncan reminds me a lot of Kareem,” Miami coach Pat Riley told reporters last week. “Kareem wasn’t a physical center, he was a finesse center. And he played until he was 41 years old.”

Riley coached Abdul-Jabbar with the Lakers for seven seasons and sees in Duncan the same sort of efficiency and economy of motion. So does Wayne Embry, the longtime NBA executive who played with Russell, banged with Chamberlain, worked with Abdul-Jabbar and, nowadays, marvels at the Spurs’ big man.

“He makes it look so effortless,” Embry, a senior advisor to the Toronto Raptors, said of Duncan. “It’s not, but that’s how it looks. He’s elusive. He’s quicker than people think. He’s always in tip-top condition. He does it all without a lot of fanfare. He’s substance over style.”

Like Abdul-Jabbar, whose sky hook was the most unstoppable offensive weapon in league history, Duncan’s bank shots are remarkably consistent and, oddly, rarely copied by other big men. Duncan doesn’t have much of a public personality, either, another trait he shares with Abdul-Jabbar (though Duncan’s has more to do with privacy and a small market rather than aloofness).

But the people who need to, know who Duncan is. Already, he is written all over this NBA season. What is Boston’s ballyhooed acquisition of Kevin Garnett, after all, if not a make-up move for the Celtics missing out on Duncan in the 1997 draft? Veteran referee Joey Crawford, for all his cantankerousness, only got in hot soup with commissioner David Stern when he tangled with Duncan. And while 29.6 percent of the league’s general managers predict James will win the 2008 Most Valuable Player award, and 59.3 percent told an NBA.com poll they would take the Cavs’ star as the cornerstone of a new franchise, 48.1 percent chose Duncan as the game’s best power forward.

Another 48.1 percent, curiously, chose him as the NBA’s top center.

Which simply means that 96.2 percent of the league’s GMs consider Tim Duncan to be the NBA’s best something. And makes you wonder what the other 3.8 percent were thinking.

Credited from CNNSI

Random Thoughts (vs POR 10/31/07)

  • Wasn’t it nice to see Darius Washington pick up a foul defending that inbounds pass?  You would have never seen Beno do that.
  • Wasn’t it also nice to see Darius hit that three late in the game?  You’ll never see Jacque do that.
  • I’m hoping everything is OK with Horry’s daughter.  For those of you who don’t know, Big Shot Rob’s first daughter was born missing a chromosome and is severely handicapped as a result.  As the father of a baby daughter myself, I couldn’t even begin to imagine.
  • Was it just me or did Manu have much improved hops last night.  Maybe a little rest will do wonders for “the Sickness” (showing support for the nickname promoted over at PtR).
  • The play was sloppy but it didn’t really matter; it was ring night after all.
  • The Blazers are much improved; screw Michael Finley Sr. (otherwise known as Greg Oden), I think they’ll surprise some people this year.

The Season………….Is NOW

let the defense begin, and the journey continue…..

Team is Everything

On the eve of Season Tipoff, Spurs fans have received a double dose of good news (great news in fact!)

Team is Everything

Duncan Signs 2-year Extension
Not only did he sign an extension but he agreed to almost $11 million less than the maximum in order to give the organization more options in the 2009-10 season. Which of course means that our big three is now guaranteed at least until that season. Which of course means (say it with me) more championships! Maybe I’m jumping the gun a little on that one but I really don’t think so.

Beno Out, Darius In
Well it looks like my call to Mr Holt worked out after all. Against all odds, the organization managed to trade Beno Udrih, long time whiny backup PG, to the Timberwolves for a second round draft pick and cash. While not significant by itself, this means they will be able to keep Darius Washington on the roster. Washington is a fantastic player that now has the world-weariness necessary to fit into the team after stints in Europe and elsewhere. He’s never been given a fair chance and I believe it all comes down to this sequence of events when he played for Memphis to get into the NCAA championship. The Spurs coaching staff is not so short-sighted however and I guarantee this will be a great move for the team.

I mean, he has to be better than Jacque Vaughn right?

My Biggest Concern…

So here it goes, my first real post and for such a huge occasion I’ve decided to go after the organization for the one thing that NEEDS to change, that MUST change. The one thing which, if changed, could guarantee many, many more rings. And that is…

A New Entrance Song!

The Spurs have been using Get Ready for This by 2 Unlimited. Who’s that you ask? Hell if I know, if I built a time machine and traveled back to the 80’s and asked the first person I see, I doubt they would know. But for the sake of being thorough… here’s the video.

I guess the GM at the time thought this was the best song on the ESPN’s Jock Jams collection he thoroughly researched but I think a change is needed, so I’ve taken it upon myself to select 4 options for the franchise. You can thank me later Mr. Holt.

Option #1 : AC/DC - Back in Black
The obvious choice but I think for a good reason.

Pros: Great classic song, hard guitar riff to start, seems to signify defending champ status
Cons: Old song, singer’s voice may irritate some, Angus probably not available to perform his hopstep move before every home game

Option #2 : Fort Minor - Remember the Name
This song sums up the Spurs mentality great; unfortunately it’s already used in a load of commercials

Pros: lyrics match the Spurs personality perfectly, has an intimidation factor, cool strings accompaniment
Cons: in TNT’s NBA commercial, kinda slow, takes a little while to start

Option #3 : John Williams - The Imperial March
The one thing the Cav’s did right in last years Finals. I imagine they used this song to make us appear as the bad guys but I thought it fit perfectly with the crew. Dressed in black, implying the Spurs as the Empire, intimidating as hell. Maybe Timmy can come out in a dark hood…

Pros: Star Wars is cool, playing up the Empire aspect, lightsabres??
Cons: I’m a dork… that’s pretty much it

Option #4 : Korn - Blind
My personal favorite, although the lyrics don’t relate much aside from that first “Are You Ready.” After that they could just repeat the bass line for player intros.

Pros: Heavy. Awesome bass line. Somehow reminds me of the culture of San Antonio?
Cons: Previously mentioned lyrics. That’s it.

Songs I Would Have Loved But Would Never Be Used For Various Reasons
Metallica’s cover of Queen’s Stone Cold Crazy - they’d never go for it
Pantera’s Walk - unfortunately Pantera is known as Dallas’ band, too bad for them; also a ripoff of this song was used previously in something called sports/entertainment (whatever that means)

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